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Beth Anstandig on BBC World Service BBC Health Check with Alison Van Diggelen

Horses on ranches in California are helping people with symptoms of anxiety and depression – following an improvement in symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder when equine therapy was used on military personnel.

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Beth is featured in the latest issue of ShoutOut LA which introduces readers to entrepreneurs focused on having a positive social impact on their community or the world at large. She shares how by helping clients tap into their Natural Leadership, we can better attend to our needs, have deeper and more meaningful relationships with each other, and create psychological safety and trust in our groups and communities.  

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Hardship and Herdship: We Need Each Other

As human animals, we’ve always needed each other. But we’ve spent a few generations forgetting just how much. The global pandemic was our reminder. A giant level set with an invitation to notice and find awe, strength, and innate connection in our human herdship. But we need to get intentional about herd behavior and practice leaning on each other for those instincts to become part of our daily lives. Beth explains in her latest post for MOMSRISING.

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The Nature of Closure

The natural rhythm of a new year offers us an opportunity to reflect and repair. It calls upon us to make meaning of what we have walked through and to think ahead to what we will encounter. But before we do the work of setting intentions and thinking ahead, we really need some closure. Read more in Beth’s latest contribution to MomsRising.

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Ciocca Center for Innovation and Entrepreneurship at Santa Clara University

Broncos, Actually Video Series
In this episode, Beth (MA Counseling Psychology ’03) shares the dream, literally, that motivated her to start The Circle Up Experience, the impact of the pandemic on mental health and leadership, the role of horse and other animal herds in teaching us about relationships and well-being, and what it means to be an entrepreneur with integrity.

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Conversations at Basecamp Podcast

Own your narrative. How can we improve the way we relate to ourselves and to others? Dr. Keba Rogers and Beth joined KAHILLA PODCAST, CONVERSATIONS AT BASECAMP for a conversation on Self-Authoring Your Script -- how to define your own beliefs, identity, and purpose for a stronger relationship with yourself and your community.


The Art of Human Whispering

Too often we lead and show up in our relationships with complete ignorance. We plow through each other’s sensitivities like heavy machinery.  With a slight pivot, we can become human whisperers, changing our approach to relating in some simple but profoundly effective ways. Read more in Beth’s latest contribution to MomsRising.

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Humans Now and Then podcast: The Nature of Leadership for our Human Herd

Humans, Now and Then explores how our rapidly changing world impacts our human experience, now and in the future.  As Humans, we belong in a group. Much like horses, belonging to a herd allows us to truly thrive. So, what can we learn from horses to help us better connect with those around us, and enable us to lead in more effective ways?  Beth spoke with host Rebecca Scott about how we can see our true nature through the eyes of a horse, and what we can learn from animals to help us center on our human selves.

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Conversations at Basecamp Podcast

Are You an Emotional Butler? We all have tipping points, even in the roles we willingly signed up to play. Too often, we think we’re showing up for the common good, a belief that can keep us propping up other people even if it’s hurting us and blocking them from growth. We think we’re supporting or nurturing. But really, we’re like a butler, pouring tea and providing a blanket that covers up the realities of life. Beth joined the Kahilla Podcast, Conversations at Basecamp to share how caretaking instincts can backfire, and how to cultivate awareness and healthy feedback mechanisms that will truly nurture ourselves and help support the growth of others.


Take the Reins Podcast

Beth joined Take the Reins podcast, Nikki Porter, for a deep dive into our ability to show up in life and recognizing the role awareness plays in all of our relationships. And toward the end of the conversation, Beth and Nikki share their personal connections to awareness and awareness fatigue as a mother. Take the Reins is a personal growth podcast featuring interviews with leading trainers and thought leaders.


Working with the Fires of Fear

While wildfires rage across the west, the elections, pandemic and societal unrest have fueled a fire of fear in our households, work teams, virtual classrooms, and neighborhoods. In my latest column, I share how we can tame these internal fires as we continue to battle 2020's inferno of upset and trauma.

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Humanly Possible with Bryan Kramer

Learning to Continually Shift with Beth Anstandig
Humanly Possible with Bryan Kramer is a podcast that reminds us being imperfect humans is our greatest competitive advantage and where guests share stories about small shifts that make an epic difference. Beth shared with Bryan how we can tap into our natural awareness as human mammals for a wealth of information about how to take care of ourselves and operate with others. We chatted further about how we're all learning together to continually shift. Listen here.


Work and the Future with Linda Nazareth

What Can Animals Tell Us About How to Work Better?
Are there things that animals can tell us about how to cope with work stress and ultimately how to work better? Beth joins economist and host Linda Nazareth. In this episode, they discuss how human beings are mammals, but mammals who do not do a good job of being attuned to their own needs and acting on them. At a time when many of us feel that our lives are not completely in control, it may be time to take a cue from that and see if there are ways that we can express our needs in the workplace and ultimately get to a place where we are both happier and more productive as a result.


Value through Vulnerability Podcast Episode 132: Guest Beth Anstandig

The Value through Vulnerability Podcast (boosted by HumansFirst) and sponsored by Aequip is dedicated to helping put the human back into humanity. Guest Beth Anstandig chats with hosts, Mike Vacanti and Garry Turner, about how humans have a unique moment in the COVID Crisis to use the unprecedented pressures we are facing to wake up, adjust, and transform how we are leading our lives and how we are showing up in our communities.

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How Animals Can Help You Handle Stress, Anxiety: A BBC Report

Beth Anstandig joins Alison van Diggelen on her podcast, Fresh Dialogues, to discuss equine therapy and how working with animals can improve our resilience and well being.


From Chickens to llamas, Cow Palace sheltering animals displaced by Bay Area wildfires

As part of the rescue efforts, Beth Anstandig of The Circle Up Experience is temporarily housing 40 horses whose owners were forced to flee their homes in the California fires at Take a Chance Ranch.

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California Wildfires: Bay Area ranchers and shelters rush to save hundreds of animals left behind

Usually The Circle Up Experience at Take a Chance Ranch is hosting online and in person leadership and consulting programs, but right now the ranch is housing more than 40 evacuated horses as the region fights wildfires.

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Awareness as a Super Power to Manage Life's Fires

Practicing “pressure awareness” is a game changer in how we lead and show up for our children, spouses, and others. Humans don’t play with pressure, engage with feedback, or adjust until we hit overwhelm. Natural Leadership Awareness is about embracing and honing that mammal part of ourselves, so we have more self-care tools and better relationship strategies. 

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Ag State of Mind with Jason Medows Podcast

Focusing on combating the mental health crisis in agriculture, join Jason Medows as he delves into the topics that are hard to talk about.

"Really exciting episode today with Beth Anstandig of the Circle Up Experience. Beth is a lifelong cowgirl who has combined her love of horses with her love of improving people's mental health into a great approach. Beth uses horses to help humans return to their natural state of being by interacting with horses. Horses can help us learn so much about our natural, primitive selves. At the end, Beth and I switch gears a bit to talk about each of our past battles with alcohol. We are both several years sober and we talk about the struggles and joys that this journey has brought each of us. Incredible episode with an incredible woman."

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Ag State of Mind Podcast

BBC World Service Health Check with

Alison van Diggelen from BBC World Series Health Check interviewed Beth Anstandig of The Circle Up Experience to report on how horses on the Take a Chance Ranch in California are helping people with anxiety and depression – following an improvement in symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder when equine therapy was used on military personnel.


How Beth Anstandig creates connections and communities...

There are ways to have a healthy work environment, even while working remotely.

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Wrangling the COVID-19 Labor Divide

Now more than ever humans, women especially, need to wake up and utilize our Natural Leadership instincts and skills inherent to us as mammals including signals, sensations, and sensors about well-being and needs. We must return to the human-animal, the inner mammal, we lost as we became busy adults and parents.

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The Find Your Awesome Podcast hosted by Kelsey Abbott

Kelsey Abbott is an intuitive Human Design Reader, a Certified Professional Coach, and Instigator of Joy. Kelsey helps spiritual adventurers remember who they are and why they’re here so they can uplevel with ease. 

"A life-long cowgirl, writer, professor, and a licensed psychotherapist, Beth helps people awaken their innate leadership gifts so they can live and work with more authentic relationship and connection. Listen in as Beth shares stories from the ranch and her own life to teach us about true leadership."

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Nature's Medicine: A Virtual Wellness Experience

Allowed Podcast with Dr. Caneel Joyce

#11: Horses, Herds and Human Animals

In today's episode, we talk with Beth Anstandig from The Circle Up Experience. Beth teaches about natural leadership, humans as animals, and how people respond to pressure. She will also discuss the four types of awareness, that whether we are conscious of it or not, actually guide us in our daily lives.

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The Circle Up Experience Taps into the Human, and Hooved, Animals...

This isn’t the typical corporate culture training, with stuffy PowerPoints, dry lectures, and the dreaded “trust fall.” Instead, it features a bucolic, indoor/outdoor setting with horses, cattle, dogs, and other furry and feathered friends.

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Uncovering Hidden Beliefs

That bright and clear morning as I drove to Take A Chance Ranch, I could not have predicted what would happen to me that day.

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Four Reasons These Entrepreneurs Have Horses For Partners

Choosing your partners and staff is the most important job every entrepreneur has to manage to run a successful business. 


Don't Horse Around with the Chocolate

Gary and the crew head to Morgan Hill, California to talk with Beth Anstandig and Susan McCusker, the founders of The Circle Up Experience, a horse assisted leadership and team building program. Start Up Experience PBS | Ep: 6 (Video)


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Even before COVID-19 subtracted so much from our lives, workplace grief was a corporate crisis. Now, as we have faced the loss of loved ones, missed occasions and celebrations, and isolation from family, friends and colleagues, the losses in our professional lives compounded with the effects of the global pandemic have become much more traumatic.…

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Crossing to Join the Herd: Psychological Safety and Relationship

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Photo by Carla Richardson I spend time outside with our herd in the horse pasture a few times a day. It’s a nervous system reset for me and a way to find my way back to the most stable parts of myself.  Recently, I’d had one of those days where all the machinery around me…

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Broadening the Concept of Mindfulness with the Four Channels of Natural Leadership Awareness - Beth Killough

Broadening the Concept of Mindfulness with the Four Channels of Natural Leadership Awareness

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We’re used to thinking about mindfulness in terms of what’s going on in our thinking. But, the thing about awareness, which we can learn from being with animals, is that by tapping into our Natural Leadership Awareness, we can broaden the scope of mindfulness to include what’s happening within our bodies, spirits, and emotions. And…

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Hardship and Herdship: We Need Each Other

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By now, you might feel like a caged animal. Well, you kind of are. We are human animals in captivity. COVID-19 has put most of the world in this surreal lock-down experience, and our lives have slowed down beyond recognition. I’ve been referring to it as The New Abnormal. I use these words to remind…

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The Nature of Closure - Beth Killough

The Nature of Closure

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Winter has been whispering at our closed doors and windows for a few months now. Frigid air, cloud cover, fewer rays of sunshine. The colder weather and shorter days affect us, whether we are aware of it or not. Our bodies have instinctively been instructed to pull the curtains hunker down. There is this palpable…

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Learning to Continually Shift - Humanly Possible with Bryan Kramer featuring Beth Killough

Humanly Possible with Bryan Kramer, Featuring Beth Killough

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Learning to Continually Shift September 24, 2020 Humanly Possible with Bryan Kramer is a podcast that reminds us being imperfect humans is our greatest competitive advantage and where guests share stories about small shifts that make an epic difference. Beth shared with Bryan how we can tap into our natural awareness as human mammals for…

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Pre-order Beth's new book! The Human Herd: Awakening our Natural Leadership

Finally, a guidebook that unleashes our mammal instincts and shows us how to heighten our self-awareness, experience our lives more deeply, improve our relationships, and step into a more natural—and powerful—way to lead.


“This book will crack open your inner human-animal soul. It’s an intimate look from a brilliant and transparent mind at how we can be our deepest selves.”

Bryan Kramer

Forbes Columnist, Podcast Host Humanly Possible, TED Talker

“If you are interested in unearthing the natural leader within yourself, I highly recommend you take a breath, settle in, and read this book.”

Maggie Merritt

Executive Director, Steinberg Institute